#redis on irc.freenode.net 2012-01-28 (txt)

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[02:10] <PeterOOO> Hello, newbie here. I'm looking for (simple) K/V datastore with the support of versioned values. Is Redis suitable for this scenario?
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[02:15] <vsmatck> Can you elaborate on "versioned values". Are you thinking a version control type of thing for key/value pairs where it stores past revisions?
[02:16] <PeterOOO> yes, exactly
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[02:17] <vsmatck> Redis doesn't directly support that but it's flexible enough to implement something like that on top of. You could use a list for example. A new revision could be modeled by pushing a element on to a list.
[02:17] <PeterOOO> I want to be able to ask for a key and possibly for its previous revisions.
[02:18] <PeterOOO> and then asking for the last item of the list, right?
[02:18] <vsmatck> yeah
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[02:21] <PeterOOO> Two question though: so I have to load the whole list into memory just to read its last item? (probably not as Redis is memory anyway) and How fast that would be? I mean, isn't this forcing Redis to do something it was not designed to do in the first place?
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[02:22] <vsmatck> Redis has commands where you can get at specific elements of the list. Redis lists are skiplists so it'd be fast to get at any revision. It'd be very fast.
[02:22] <vsmatck> To find out specifically how fast there's a redis benchmark utility which allows you to benchmark specific commands.
[02:23] <vsmatck> But it'd be at least 10's of thousands per second.
[02:24] <PeterOOO> Ok, cool. Thanks for the answers!
[02:24] <vsmatck> np
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[07:50] <nopz___> Hi
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[07:51] <nopz___> does redis pub sub allow round-robin across multiple subscribers ?
[07:52] <nopz___> or it only acts as a broadcast?
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[08:12] <nopz___> well it seems not
[08:12] <nopz___> pub/sub is broadcast messaging
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[09:30] <girasquid> If I have a bunch of keys in the format foo.bar.baz:1990-01-02, foo.bar.baz:1990-02-03, what would be the best way to get all the keys between 1990-01-01 and 1990-02-01 ?
[09:31] <girasquid> Would it be to pull down foo.bar.baz:1990-??-?? and then just filter them in my code, or is there some Redis magic I don't know?
[09:31] <ron> the former.
[09:31] <girasquid> fair enough - thanks
[09:31] <ron> there's a way to do the latter, but it's extremely inefficient.
[09:32] <ron> if it's important enough, consider changing your data structure.
[09:32] <girasquid> Any recommendations? We were originally thinking of using a sorted set, but we need duplicate values
[09:32] <ron> what are the values of each key?
[09:33] <girasquid> integers
[09:33] <ron> list, set, sorted set, string, hash? :)
[09:33] <girasquid> string, I guess - the only command being used to store the values is incrby
[09:33] <ron> I see
[09:34] <ron> and are the ranges you want to query fixed?
[09:34] <girasquid> I am not sure what you mean
[09:35] <ron> .:girasquid:. If I have a bunch of keys in the format foo.bar.baz:1990-01-02, foo.bar.baz:1990-02-03, what would be the best way to get all the keys between 1990-01-01 and 1990-02-01 ?
[09:35] <girasquid> I don't think so, if I'm understanding correctly - 1990-01-01 -> 1990-02-1 is one example, but I'll also need to query stuff like 1995-01-01 - 1995-08-09
[09:36] <ron> I see.
[09:37] <ron> well, consider using a hash. have the key be foo.bar.baz, the field be the date, and the value be the value. then use hmget to get a set of relevant fields.
[09:37] <girasquid> okay - I'll read up
[09:37] <girasquid> Thanks!
[09:37] <ron> np
[09:38] <girasquid> I just caught this in the docs - "A hash with a few fields (where few means up to one hundred or so) is stored in a way that takes very little space" - is there a situation where hash storage starts to break down? I need something like 3-4k keys/hash
[09:39] <ron> I doubt it'll an issue, but look at the documentation, I think there's a way to set hashes to be as efficient with more fields.
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[09:39] <girasquid> okay - thanks
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[12:50] <ctp> Hi folks. Is there anything like sismember for lists available in Redis? How to check if a list contains an element?
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[13:24] <eddd> :<
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