#redis on irc.freenode.net 2012-01-16 (txt)

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[01:20] <threedot> hi
[01:21] <threedot> needed a command extend current ttl
[01:22] <threedot> can be EEXPIRE command
[01:23] <threedot> or increase|decrease expire
[01:23] <threedot> IEXPIRE, DEXPIRE
[01:24] <threedot> INCEXPIRE, DECEXPIRE
[01:27] <ron> is there a question there? :)
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[06:05] <maritz> quick question: what's the best way to do a ZRANGE/ZREVRANGE with a limit of start, start+10. (getting 10 elements, starting at x)
[06:06] <maritz> waaaait, i'm stupid.
[06:06] <maritz> nvm
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[10:25] <daveyeu> hey there, i'm seeing an issue w/ `make test` on 2.4.6 where integration tests fail. anyone else?
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[12:45] <chx> hi. is it possible to "pause" replication and restart it?
[12:45] <chx> without a full resync.
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[13:01] <MN_> We are in the process of evaluating Redis as an option for a large query problem .. I know that Redis has great support for sorted data structures .. had some questions, but will keep it to a minimum (3) on IRC ..
[13:02] <MN_> (1) How do you implement compound sorting (ORDER BY LAST NAME, STATE)?
[13:02] <MN_> (2) How do we filter data on multiple filter criteria (WHERE clause)? Anything in Redis for this or will this be implemented in the app?
[13:02] <MN_> (3) Redis does not seem to have the concept of an index? Esp in context of multiple filter criteria
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[13:12] <ron> MN_: I think you got the purpose of Redis a bit wrong...
[13:13] <ron> It sounds like you're looking for a relational database rather than a key/value store.
[13:13] <ron> at least according to how you define your queries.
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[13:23] <chx> MN_: if you have ruled out relational datbases for a technical reason (and not hype!) , then, seeing those quesitons, you need to look at mongodb
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[13:32] <ron> well, mongodb is _a_ solution, not _the_ solution.
[13:34] <Sembiance> MN_: redis isn't like a normal relational database. There really isn't a "query language"
[13:35] <Sembiance> MN_: basically, look at redis as providing atomic access to data structures: lists, hashes, sets, sorted sets and plain strings. All in a key/value way.
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[13:36] <Sembiance> MN_: pretend you had no database and had to store your data in a single global variable. What type of object would you store it in? Take Java for example. Map? List? Set? Then you can think a bit about how you would store it in redis
[13:37] <Sembiance> MN_: but just be prepared that with redis you REALLY want to think about what data you have before hand, and figure out how best to store it. It's not an "on the fly" sort of DB like relational databases are
[13:39] <Sembiance> MN_: For years I've used regular relational databases including Oracle, MS SQL, MySQL and Postgres. I've more recently used CouchDB, Redis and MongoDB. I will very likely never, ever choose a SQL based relational database again.
[13:39] <Sembiance> MN_: Redis is really super duper awesome. You give an open minded programmer redis and a project that redis is well suited for and he/she will fall in love. it's guaranteed :)
[13:45] <Sembiance> I'll also state that my experience with MongoDB was pleasant enough, but ended up not going into production with it and likely won't choose it in the future for any projects.
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[15:04] <sigmonsays_> f**k me :(
[15:05] <sigmonsays_> just spent ages wondering why ADD wasn't working, its because python API is not the same as the hiredis API (spec). Sigh.
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[15:25] <jacqui> Sembiance: I've used mongo in production and won't be choosing to do so again :)
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[15:26] <jacqui> I like how simple redis is while also allowing complex data structures.
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[19:26] <sivy> apparently from kombu
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[20:06] <sarkis> i cant figure out how to convert redis response hashes into perl hash
[20:07] <sarkis> i do $redis->hmget('hash_name', 'field1', 'field2', ...) that returns a list? i think?
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[20:09] <sarkis> i guess i need to write a function to traverse through and make a hash from the list returned?
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