#redis on irc.freenode.net 2012-01-10 (txt)

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[04:21] <jondot_> hi all, i'm working on a unique id generator service. first benchmark is nodejs+redis using INCR.
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[04:22] <jondot_> first question: is anyone using redis for this - and is there special consideration for more frequent disk flushing (in case of crash, i don't want ids to be non-unique)?
[04:22] <jondot_> second question: is there any point benchmarking it against an RDBMS like mysql or postgres - when all i need is an id?
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[04:33] <jerrund> Hi, just finished my first tour of redis, I have a question about fault tolerance: Suppose I have Client/Master/Slave C/M/S. if C adds a key/value against M , can C be sure that the data has been replicated and would survive the sudden death of M?
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[04:43] <jondot_> jerrund, i don't think so.
[04:43] <jondot_> on M itself, data may not have been flushed yet when M crashes
[04:44] <jondot_> quick googling bring this up: http://code.google.com/p/redis/issues/detail?id=552
[04:48] <jerrund> thanks, I've been reading about redis and I though that was the case, just making sure. so M acknowledges a write before the data is replicated? (for performance reasons ...)
[04:51] <jondot_> im guessing so
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[06:58] <prawnsalad> hey guys, anyone know if there is a Predis channel, or can i ask that here too?
[06:59] <michel_v> you can ask here
[06:59] <michel_v> JoL1hAHN may be able to help you
[07:01] <prawnsalad> ah awesome. using $redis->blpop("queue:mytype"); bugs outs with 'wrong number of arguments for 'blpop' command', im unsure how im supposed to use this?
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[07:01] <JoL1hAHN> prawnsalad: you are missing the timeout parameter
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[07:02] <prawnsalad> ah timeout required.. shall give that a try
[07:02] <prawnsalad> is there any docs anywhere that dscribes these paramaters at all? or have i missed these :/
[07:02] <JoL1hAHN> prawnsalad: http://redis.io/commands/blpop ;-)
[07:03] <JoL1hAHN> prawnsalad: usually Predis uses the same parameter order as described in the redis docs, aside from a few exceptions
[07:03] <prawnsalad> oh i see, it uses the same commands from there
[07:03] <prawnsalad> *parameters
[07:04] <prawnsalad> cool, works
[07:04] prawnsalad bookmarks redis commands
[07:06] <JoL1hAHN> prawnsalad: I plan to update the docs of Predis in the next few days describing the alternatives available for invoking certain redis commands
[07:08] <JoL1hAHN> prawnsalad: e.g. blpop/brpop can take more than one key, with predis you can do $client->blpop('list1', 'list2', $timeout) or $client->blpop(array('list1', 'list2'), $timeout)
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[07:09] <prawnsalad> ah, can be an array of lists too
[07:09] <prawnsalad> would be handy for a few things
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[09:51] <hadees> anyone know of a repo or rpm I can use to install in cents?
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[10:10] <codatory> Idk; CentOS usually doesn't have packages less than 10 years old... Is Redis even that old?
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[10:57] <dschn> maybe dumb question but say I'm pipelining 20k-50k commands to redis, is it better to pipeline that all at once or split it into multiple pipeline calls performance-wise?
[10:58] <dschn> probably get a good answer benchmarking it
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[12:44] <akahn> Hey, I'm trying to simulate a redis outage using blpop for some tests (in ruby), this is my approach: https://gist.github.com/e1ff97cd9e1138cc6d97 however, rather than raising an error due to timeout, this just waits 5 seconds and the PONG response is received. what am I doing wrong?
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[12:52] <AmirBehzad> What's the diff between PUB/SUB and PUSH/PULL ?
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[13:03] <ron> where do you see PUSH/PULL?
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[13:55] <el_kevino> what is the best approach to using expiration with sets?
[13:56] <ron> ?
[13:56] <el_kevino> sorry - i guess that's not a very good question :)
[13:57] <el_kevino> writing some code that requires sets to be used. there are cases where i would only want a set to exist for X amount of time.
[13:58] <el_kevino> and checking the docs, sets don't seem to have an expire time (please correct me if i'm wrong). how do people solve this problem? i'd rather not re-invent the wheel and just wonder what best practice is there.
[13:58] <ron> sets have expirations
[13:58] <ron> all keys can have expiration
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[13:58] <el_kevino> oh really...
[13:59] <ron> you can't have expiration set on an inner set value.
[13:59] <el_kevino> right, just the main key
[13:59] <el_kevino> my bad - i misunderstood
[13:59] <ron> right
[13:59] <ron> it's a common misunderstanding.
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[13:59] <ron> look at EXPIRE
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[14:05] <el_kevino> ron: thanks - forgot all about expire. heh.
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[14:06] <el_kevino> and for whatever reason, i was remembering the pre 2.1 issues with expire
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[14:41] <sigmonsays_> are there more complete docs for hiredis somewhere?
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[17:50] <perezd> wtf
[17:50] <perezd> there is HINCRBY
[17:50] <perezd> but not HDECRBY ?
[17:50] <perezd> seriously?
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