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[01:27:20] d0k (~d0k@p5092241F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #redis. [01:27:20] brunov (~bruno@190.195.137.208) joined #redis. [01:30:36] PiotrSikora (~none@nginx/adept/piotrsikora) left irc: Excess Flood [01:32:56] PiotrSikora (~none@nginx/adept/piotrsikora) joined #redis. [01:43:05] drbobbeaty (~drbobbeat@c-67-184-75-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #redis. [01:53:02] TheHodge (~thehodge@213.249.131.12) joined #redis. [01:54:05] hi all [01:54:34] I would like to update several set at once [01:54:41] by key matching [01:54:59] like : sadd *:com test [01:55:14] to add value test to all the key that end by :com [01:55:16] it's possible? [01:55:20] mjr_ (~mjr@cpe-66-91-117-138.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: mjr_ [02:04:20] TheHodge (~thehodge@213.249.131.12) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:05:36] elcuervo (~elcuervo@r186-48-199-243.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) joined #redis. [02:05:37] synk (~synk@ugate.dwango.co.jp) joined #redis. 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[03:01:17] martincozzi (~martincoz@c-67-180-194-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: martincozzi [03:02:23] io_syl (~io_syl@unaffiliated/steph021) left irc: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. [03:04:13] okay I will do that in python :) [03:08:24] synk (~synk@ugate.dwango.co.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [03:28:53] cdepue (~cdepue@host56.190-226-89.telecom.net.ar) joined #redis. [03:32:14] NetRoY (~NetRoY@122.167.221.92) left irc: Quit: NetRoY [03:42:33] You should use wildcards only for rare cleanup jobs. [03:43:08] In a large keyspace wildcards are no good ;) [03:44:57] NetRoY (~NetRoY@122.167.221.92) joined #redis. [03:51:18] okay :) [03:55:37] drbobbeaty (~drbobbeat@38.98.137.29) joined #redis. [03:55:50] mgrouchy (~mgrouchy@CPE00259c2e72ce-CM0013718a0994.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #redis. [03:57:18] amccloud (~anonymous@184.1.28.172) joined #redis. 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[05:01:04] mgrouchy (~mgrouchy@CPE0026bb736f7f-CM0016928dd92d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [05:03:46] NetRoY (~NetRoY@122.167.221.92) left irc: Quit: NetRoY [05:06:08] nopz___ (~nopz___@8.14.117.35) joined #redis. [05:06:10] Hi [05:06:13] NetRoY (~NetRoY@122.167.221.92) joined #redis. [05:06:22] Is it possible to use globing over string keys ? [05:06:39] like GET 'counter:categories:*' [05:07:11] not that I know of [05:07:22] but I didn't keep track of big improvements [05:07:30] NetRoY (~NetRoY@122.167.221.92) left irc: Client Quit [05:08:02] unless someone helps you on this, you can still do KEYS counter:categories:* and then MGET these keys [05:08:16] yes [05:08:54] thank :) [05:09:59] progre55 (~progre55@static-212-162-171-110.cust.tele2.se) joined #redis. 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[09:54:28] k3VB6u4d (~k3VB6u4d@ec2-204-236-142-90.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [09:54:28] Nick change: k3VB6u4d_ -> k3VB6u4d [09:54:52] Nick change: wmoss|away -> wmoss [09:55:29] what happens if redis grows more than memory installed? without using maxmemory in config [09:58:28] jscheel (~jscheel@drupal.org/user/116197/view) joined #redis. [09:58:33] andymccurdy (~andymccur@69.12.160.66) joined #redis. [09:59:38] gnrfan (~gnrfan@161.132.16.57) joined #redis. [10:00:45] rittyan_, on my laptop running latest ubuntu, it hangs the system and forces me to do a hard reboot. [10:01:10] brunov: weird, must be oom killer [10:01:54] rittyan_, yeah, it's probably a quirk in my system [10:02:08] purely anecdotal :) [10:02:25] brunov: it probably starts swapping [10:02:30] brunov: thrashing your disk [10:02:41] making your system totally unresponsive [10:02:45] pietern: and if i have no swap configured? what's happening? [10:02:49] if you disable swap, the kernel will oom-kill it [10:03:08] I see [10:03:24] pietern: and maxmemory disables EXEC completely if redis takes more memory than maxmemory, right? [10:03:54] NetRoY (~NetRoY@122.167.221.92) joined #redis. [10:04:25] rittyan_: yep [10:05:02] pietern: and writing aof to disk (not flushing, but writing, i.e. write(2)) is async? [10:05:21] soveran (~soveran@186.19.214.247) joined #redis. [10:05:50] rittyan_: write+flush is done in one pass [10:06:06] this used to be blocking [10:06:09] pietern: so with everysec policy write is issued every second? [10:06:25] otherwise there is no guarantee of the write ops being persisted [10:06:34] yep [10:06:37] now it sits in a thread? [10:07:05] yep [10:07:11] for everysec [10:07:23] since that is kind of opportunistic to begin with [10:07:28] what if flushing takes longer than a sec? [10:07:31] gnrfan (~gnrfan@161.132.16.57) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [10:07:46] rittyan_: it will block in the next second [10:07:52] what if flush is in progress but I ask redis to quit - it waits for the thread to finish? [10:08:12] rittyan_: wait, that is not correct [10:08:20] :-) [10:08:54] first, it skips writing for 2 seconds [10:08:57] keeping sutff in memory [10:09:15] then, it writes without fflush, until the initial background job completes [10:09:31] this is to prevent intermittent disk peaks to slow down redis too much [10:09:40] I see [10:09:44] gnrfan (~gnrfan@161.132.16.57) joined #redis. [10:09:44] and then it flushes on next second? [10:10:14] rittyan_: then it flushes again when it can queue a new background job [10:10:27] but since the original flush was pending, subsequent writes will block until that has completed [10:10:28] I see [10:10:48] you said there is a time when it writes without flushing. Do writes happen every 1 sec too? [10:11:07] hmm [10:11:17] so flushing blocks all following writes? [10:11:27] nopz___ (~nopz___@8.14.117.35) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:11:51] rittyan_: you can test that [10:11:58] hammer 1 thread with fflush'es [10:12:02] and write in another thread [10:12:05] when a fflush is busy, [10:12:10] subsequent writes block [10:12:14] Nick change: wmoss -> wmoss|away [10:13:03] Nick change: wmoss|away -> wmoss [10:13:24] hmm, so 1) everysec we write+flush 2) if flush is blocked, we don't write+flush for next 2 seconds 3) then we try to write (and we block the thread) 4) when first "flush" completed, we write+flush happily [10:13:27] I got it right? [10:13:42] rittyan_: yep [10:13:44] that sounds right [10:13:55] we don't block the thread though [10:14:03] the thread is blocking on the fflush syscall [10:14:12] sorry, fsync [10:14:21] yes, but in the end we issued write and hence we blocked [10:14:31] that's what I meant [10:14:35] the write has to wait for the fsync to complete [10:14:36] yes [10:14:41] so we implicitly block [10:14:43] not explicitly [10:14:50] if the OS has other guarantees [10:14:53] oh? I thought OS blocks you [10:14:58] this may be different [10:14:59] yes [10:15:13] the OS blocks, so we implicitly block on writes in this case [10:15:33] there is no such logic in redis itself? Like, if we didn't fsync properly, we sleep [10:15:37] it all happens by itself? :-) [10:15:43] rittyan_: yes [10:15:47] amccloud (~anonymous@184.1.28.172) left irc: Quit: amccloud [10:15:56] amccloud (~anonymous@184.1.28.172) joined #redis. [10:16:00] apparently, the OS doesn't let you write to a descriptor that is being fsync'ed [10:16:02] this behaviour is consistent among different OSes? [10:16:06] rittyan_: don't know [10:16:13] rittyan_: you tell me :) [10:16:20] I don't know, we use linuxes :-) [10:16:21] linux behaves this way [10:16:34] I see. I have a question about replication [10:17:33] 1) slave connects to a master 2) master BGSAVEs, flushes itself to a disk 3) sends file contents to a slave, just like telnet, "raw" content 4) slave writes contents to a file 5) loads file like from rdb 6) ????? 7) master sends commands to slave like to AOF [10:17:36] what I am missing? [10:18:02] there is no step 6 [10:18:16] after loading from file, the master is connected just like any other client [10:18:22] and it executes the commands it sends [10:18:28] pietern: surely loading from rdb takes time, minutes, master cannot just send commands to slave [10:18:39] without waitng for slave to become operable [10:18:45] rittyan_: those commands queue up at the server side [10:18:47] master side [10:18:56] how master knows that the slave is ready? [10:18:58] so yes, the master can just send commands [10:19:19] rittyan_: because the slave starts reading from the socket again and the write buffer gets drained [10:19:32] again, this is done implicitly by buffers on the master's side [10:19:34] oh, so it all happens in some epoll/select logic? [10:19:35] no complex logic [10:19:41] yes [10:19:56] like, when socket becomes writeable (?), master writes commands from buffer to socket [10:20:02] yes, [10:20:09] but this is all abstracted away [10:20:14] the replication code is not aware of this [10:20:17] amccloud (~anonymous@184.1.28.172) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:20:19] it "just happens" (tm) [10:20:21] master must have N different queues in memory if there is N slaves [10:20:27] rittyan_: yup [10:20:29] I see [10:20:43] pietern: I will be talking about redis tomorrow at work, so I am trying to clear up some grey areas :-) [10:20:52] rittyan_: hehe, sure [10:20:52] to not get caught during simple questions [10:20:53] where? [10:20:59] pietern: in my company [10:21:12] it is a big company and we don't know what we are doing [10:21:15] too many people, too many projects [10:21:20] so we share knowledge from time to time [10:21:31] right, cool [10:21:34] which company? [10:21:47] http://company.yandex.com/ [10:22:50] oh, and how master knows that slave is a slave? what is the magic word? Like, some I_AM_A_SLAVE command? [10:23:01] rittyan_: SYNC [10:23:07] when you call SLAVEOF on a client [10:23:12] it connects to the master [10:23:15] sends a SYNC [10:23:26] then the master knows it needs to do a BGSAVE [10:23:27] oh, right! I remember I did it manually with netcat session long time ago [10:23:31] hehe [10:23:50] pietern: what happens if I have two slaves, one connects to a master, master BGSAVES, then right after that another slave connects [10:23:59] will master use the old file? [10:24:08] or it will make two BGSAVEs at once? Or one after another? [10:24:09] rittyan_: yes [10:24:23] there will never be 2 background processes active at the same time [10:24:35] the second slave will use the same dump as the first slave [10:24:52] when the BGSAVE is done, however, a new BGSAVE will need to be made [10:24:56] martincozzi (~martincoz@209.66.114.6) joined #redis. [10:25:38] pietern: so if BGSAVE is active and we have slaves connecting to us, they all will share the same queue (of commands)? [10:26:09] content-wise, not C-pointer-wise :-) [10:26:43] gregpascale (~textual@174-24-164-49.tukw.qwest.net) joined #redis. [10:27:18] I think we're hitting https://github.com/antirez/redis/issues/91 (Redis should close the connection when the client output buffer is too big), and I added some info to that case; anyone else seen it happen that a pubsub client's output_list eats up all of the available memory? The client is node_redis. [10:27:46] rittyan_: yeps [10:27:53] pietern: I see! makes sense [10:28:26] Thank you very much for your time and explanation! [10:28:33] rittyan_: no problem, glad I could help [10:28:39] rittyan_: hope the talks goes well [10:28:42] you just saved me hours of reading C code :-) [10:28:56] brettk: yes, this can happen [10:29:01] (or, saved me from reading C code) [10:29:23] brettk: this is also something we need to take care of [10:29:51] senderista (~senderist@216.161.248.54) left irc: Quit: senderista [10:30:22] brettk: sometimes this can be caused not by a slow consumer, but by a super-fast producer who fans out to lots of subscribers [10:30:31] you can easily saturate 10gbe with that [10:31:14] that's kind of interesting. the producer is indeed pretty fast, but it only has 36 subscribers. [10:32:19] brettk: I've seen redis blow up with only 5 subscribers [10:32:34] if you publish at 100mbit, every subscriber takes 100mbit as well ;) [10:32:36] bugfree (~azhang@adsl-99-63-77-95.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined #redis. [10:32:40] amccloud (~anonymous@184.1.28.172) joined #redis. [10:32:48] true, true. [10:33:11] axl_ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #redis. [10:33:59] brettk: it's something we want to take care of [10:34:05] _macro (~Neil@c-67-169-183-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #redis. [10:34:20] but in the mean time, if you have super-fast publishers, or need to peak out to disk or something [10:34:34] I'd recommend a pure message broker instead of redis pubsub [10:34:53] axl___ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #redis. [10:35:14] axl___ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:36:05] well, i certainly need to make sure that we're not in fact flooding the network. i can put some redis pubsub slaves up as a stopgap and subscribe to those, which would reduce the number of clients going over the network by a factor of 10. [10:36:15] axl___ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #redis. [10:36:29] axl__ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [10:36:40] amccloud (~anonymous@184.1.28.172) left irc: Client Quit [10:36:59] setting up dedicated pub/sub slaves is a good one indeed [10:37:05] axl__ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #redis. [10:37:14] although all pub/sub traffic is replicated, so you might have the same problem with 36 slaves [10:37:24] but yes, if it is the case that that's the problem, we'll think about changing messaging frameworks. [10:37:29] it depends on your app if you can apply this technique: [10:37:36] axl_ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:37:46] but another way of going about it is to have 2 connections per subscriber: 1x a control line an 1x a data line [10:37:53] where you use pub/sub merely for notification [10:38:03] and pull data over the second connection (e.g. by GET) [10:38:17] then, you can duplicate notifications on the client side etc [10:38:22] and throttle in that way [10:39:41] you lost me. let me reread all of that. [10:40:16] axl___ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:40:22] jrzz (~jrz@d152222.upc-d.chello.nl) joined #redis. 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[10:42:59] brettk: I'm saying, we definitely need to fix this [10:43:09] but we can only drop slow clients, maybe slow down producers a bit [10:43:19] Jrz (~jrz@d152222.upc-d.chello.nl) joined #redis. [10:43:25] where another strategy may be a better fit [10:43:34] grampajoe (~grampa@184-216-93-185.pools.spcsdns.net) joined #redis. [10:43:46] cool… now a textual app user…. used linkinus before (cost me damn lots!) [10:44:13] marcostoledo (~marcostol@189.29.90.157) left irc: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. [10:45:00] i'll do some research and see what the network looks like -- we're not backing up very often, but you're right, i should certainly at least set up slaves to take the load off -- that would be an easy stopgap, as there are only 3 server boxes. [10:45:15] each with 12 procs. [10:46:11] the issue you point out with all pubsub traffic being replicated -- you're just saying that every slave will get all of the pubsub traffic, right? [10:50:04] pietern: thanks for the help! 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[13:43:36] christophe_ (51f77abd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.247.122.189) joined #redis. [13:43:47] hi [13:45:07] grampajoe (~grampa@184-216-93-185.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Quit: Bye! [13:46:45] I have to share Semaphore between few JVMs and thought about Redis to do that but runs into problems when using the pattern watch/multi. I think that watch/multi is only to mimic simple locks (on/off) right ? [13:49:31] ambroff (~ambroff@209.66.114.6) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [13:52:00] luckyruby (~luckyruby@125-187.96-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #redis. [13:54:00] Jrz (~jrz@d152222.upc-d.chello.nl) left irc: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. [13:56:57] Kosma (kosma@host-6-66.internetunion.pl) left irc: Quit: :] [13:58:32] nopz___ (~nopz___@8.14.117.35) joined #redis. [13:59:12] Is it ok if I have 1 000 000 keys ( used as counter ) in my redis database? [13:59:28] why not [13:59:44] redis can have 2^32 keys [14:00:01] I have a video website and each time one user click on a video i INCR counter [14:00:03] mjr_ (~mjr@cpe-66-91-117-138.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined #redis. [14:00:14] nopz___: that's fine [14:00:18] I think redis perfect for that [14:00:26] i have an auth backend and each time user uses a security token i INCR counter [14:00:34] millions of tokens, too [14:00:35] I use mongodb and redis for counter and other low operations [14:00:44] good [14:00:45] ok cool [14:00:59] 13ms to print a page [14:01:03] it's fine I think [14:01:24] always less than 100 ms [14:01:32] that's good [14:01:41] ok cool :) [14:01:43] but what is more important is how many parallel requests you can serve [14:01:44] :-) [14:02:16] yeah going to test with ab [14:02:33] xcbt (~xcbt@208-100-139-67.bendbroadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:03:18] christophe_ (51f77abd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.247.122.189) left #redis. [14:03:37] nopz___: What are you using for the site, other than redis? [14:03:59] mongodb [14:04:14] iyes [14:04:16] yes [14:04:40] and for the app server? [14:04:54] Flask ( python ) + uwsgi + nginx + mongodb and redis [14:05:14] nopz___: what template engine? [14:05:17] nopz___: Awesome :D [14:05:23] Jinja2 [14:05:26] I see [14:05:35] nopz___: haha, I'm using that for my redis powered site too [14:05:43] :D [14:05:48] same configuration ? [14:06:17] not exactly, I use twisted.web with cyclone [14:06:33] why not gevent ? [14:06:53] pietern: redis is saving the day for us as we scale out. Thanks for all of your work on it. [14:07:01] nopz___: Because twisted has fancy IRC and Email functionality [14:07:12] mjr_: awesome to hear! [14:07:14] yeah :) [14:07:40] mjr_: did the zipmap settings change fragmentation? [14:07:51] lowered CPU a lot [14:07:57] DubLo7 (~Adium@71-83-3-210.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:08:01] mjr_: decreasing max-length? [14:08:09] It must have been burning through conversions all the time. [14:08:38] I left length at 64. [14:08:45] But entries went from 512 to 4 [14:09:31] mjr_: do you think you would have graphed the number of upconversions if it were exported by redis? [14:09:40] ab -n 10000 -c 5 http://192.168.1.72:6969/ all request less than 100 ms actually [14:09:51] axl__ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #redis. [14:09:54] pietern: well, I would now. :) [14:09:58] mjr_: hehe [14:09:59] But I wouldn't have known to do that. [14:10:00] right [14:10:14] it probably would have stood out in the INFO output though [14:10:23] lstrojny (~lstrojny@ppp-188-174-58-158.dynamic.mnet-online.de) joined #redis. [14:11:33] We graph a ton of stuff, but nothing from info. Need to change that. [14:13:07] axl_ (~axl@173-11-52-113-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:13:39] wmoss (~wmoss@75.126.219.82-static.reverse.softlayer.com) left #redis. 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[15:36:40] woah [15:36:44] flushed flushes the whole thing [15:36:47] del deletes a key [15:36:48] ok cool [15:36:50] gotcha [15:37:09] Action: nicholasf loves redis [15:37:16] Action: rittyan kinda loves redis [15:37:38] redis is a good tool to have [15:37:49] p1d (~p1d@ns1.vonaffenfels.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [15:37:50] yes, better to have redis than not to have [15:38:00] but having it the only storage for my system i experience some difficulties :-) [15:39:14] nopz___ (~nopz___@8.14.117.35) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [15:40:24] S1kx (~S1kx@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/s1kx) left #redis ("Leaving"). [15:42:17] paatrick1123 (~paatrick1@cpe-24-160-179-157.columbus.res.rr.com) joined #redis. [15:44:36] p1d (~p1d@ns1.vonaffenfels.de) joined #redis. [15:46:08] rittyan: Im also using postgres [15:49:35] awksed2greep (~awksedgre@c-24-98-243-58.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined #redis. 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[16:45:08] jtsnow (~jtsnow@75-169-84-216.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:45:35] strmpnk (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:46:44] rittyan (~rittyan@95-26-105-40.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:51:47] queonda (~queonda@user-0cdfrf1.cable.mindspring.com) joined #redis. [16:54:23] nicholasf: the "s =" is superfluous, really - it's all about the callback, as with everything in Node [16:55:06] Im on a learning curve here but I find the node_redis client a very frustrating process tbh [16:55:06] Sarevok (~locke@rrcs-98-101-176-143.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left #redis. [16:55:23] like I havent been able to find a single example of hget in all of the documentation or examples on github [16:55:40] the readme only has examples of group actions - smembers hkeys etc. [16:56:40] anyway, got it. Thanks mate [16:56:44] client.hget("items", "1", (e,r) -> @foo = r) [16:57:37] queonda (~queonda@user-0cdfrf1.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Quit: queonda [16:57:52] "this" might not be what you expect there [16:58:42] martincozzi (~martincoz@c-67-180-194-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #redis. [17:01:12] ceej (~anonymous@cpe-72-190-40-203.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ceej [17:05:17] deepthawtz (~deepthawt@209.119.38.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:05:23] nicholasf: yeah you probably want => @foo = r [17:05:55] nicholasf: "=>" means bound function in CoffeeScript [17:06:19] willeh: yeh, thanks. Ive read through coffeescript but am learning all of this at once [17:06:37] nicholasf: become one with the callbacks [17:06:47] Action: nicholasf works on that [17:06:51] thanks guys [17:06:52] The return value from the commands is the buffering status. Everything is async. [17:06:55] nicholasf: The problem of functions not being bound to their objects is one of the reasons I don't use Node [17:07:00] There are examples of all commands in the test.js [17:07:14] willeh: I think Node is too big to dodge in the js world [17:07:23] mjr_: ok thanks [17:07:26] good stuff guys [17:07:33] nicholasf: well the flaw is with javascript in general not just node [17:07:37] But hget is the same as get in this case. [17:08:17] We have ES5 Function.prototype.bind() in node, so you can use that. [17:08:35] Or just leverage closures to bind things together. [17:09:22] https://github.com/mranney/node_redis [17:09:31] check out examples, tests and test.'s [17:09:33] mjr_: yeah I think CoffeeScript does a good job of sorting it out [17:09:35] er, test.js [17:17:08] strmpnk (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) joined #redis. [17:21:16] strmpnk (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:23:07] soveran (~soveran@186.19.214.247) joined #redis. 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