#redis on irc.freenode.net 2011-11-29 (txt)

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[02:46] <rittyan> I'm just wondering, what's more stable: 2.4.2 or 2.4.4 with critical jemalloc bug fixed
[02:46] <rittyan> :-)
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[03:11] <ron> rittyan: I'll leave you to take a wild guess on that.
[03:12] <rittyan> ron: I was referring to the topic
[03:12] <rittyan> if you know what I mean
[03:14] <ron> ah, well, the topic is normally outdated.. ops here are not as often as they used to be.
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[06:56] <Tuxist> hi
[06:56] <Tuxist> have anyone experince with redisdb and store jpeg streams
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[07:21] <cfitzhugh> I would like to extend the syntax for the redis SORT command, but if it won't be pulled, I should approach it a different way. Anyone here able to give a thumbs up or down on the idea… a bit of brainstorming?
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[07:24] <cfitzhugh> maybe I'll just share the idea :P
[07:24] <cfitzhugh> right now you can sort like this (roughly)
[07:25] <cfitzhugh> SORT record_*->weight
[07:25] <cfitzhugh> for some more flexibility, I'd like to let you specify weights and values in the hash, so you can customize the query
[07:26] <cfitzhugh> i.e.
[07:26] <cfitzhugh> SORT record_*->[5*weight+6*weight2+-5*weight3]
[07:27] <cfitzhugh> pretty simple math in there, but lets you keep the data the same, but the requestor can change how much they care about different aspects.
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[10:14] <j0sh> is there a way to do an atomic decrement and remove if <= 0?
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[10:17] <ron> j0sh: probably with multi/exec.
[10:18] <j0sh> ron: multi/exec doesnt return the value of the decr until after it's run
[10:18] <ron> that's true.
[10:18] <ron> hmm, not sure then. sorry.
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[10:20] <j0sh> i guess i could use scripting with eval
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[10:21] <pietern> j0sh: that's the preferred way
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[10:21] <pietern> otherwise it is possible with WATCH/MULTI/EXEC
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[10:21] <ron> pietern: topic update time :)
[10:22] <pietern> ron: yeehaw!
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[10:22] <j0sh> pietern: alright, cool
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[11:16] <j0sh> does the redis-rb client have eval? doesn't seem so
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[11:20] <zul__> Hi all, I'm trying to develop a geographical app.. In my server I receive (lat, long) and My server has to rensponde with all the places close to the coords received. i'm a newbie in redis and to all nosql systems. Could you suggest me the right tool to develop it? I thinked Redis and hilbert curves but I'm having some troubles and dobts
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[12:26] <zul__> could I get an advise if it is the right way to use redis as spatial db?
[12:28] <perezd> zul__: doubtful
[12:28] <perezd> why not use a spatial db instead
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[13:02] <zul__> perezd could you tell me wich one?
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[13:17] <perezd> zul__: depends on your needs
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[15:58] <Fuhr> Hi, I have quick question (Being a rookie at Redis). If I have to sets of nodes, websites and tags(keywords such as music, cooking etc), that I have to store - how is this best implemented in Redis? I am storing the data for later use with networkX. Working in Python
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[15:59] <Fuhr> One website can have many tags and tags can be connected to many websites
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[16:01] <Fuhr> Any ideas?
[16:01] <Fuhr> :)
[16:06] <idaunis> pietern: Hi Pietern, I would like to improve the SORT command by adding multiple BY patterns. IMO this feature gives Redis more strength when performing filters
[16:06] <pietern> idaunis: ok
[16:07] <pietern> idaunis: SORT hasn't been focused on for a while now
[16:07] <pietern> since it is inherently not distributable
[16:07] <pietern> e.g. keys synthesized for all BY/GET clauses need to be present on the same instance
[16:08] <pietern> and because it does an in place sort it can never be as fast as a store that keeps its data sorted at all times
[16:08] <idaunis> ok I have everithing implemented already.
[16:08] <pietern> but I see why multiple by clauses can make sense on a single instance
[16:08] <pietern> idaunis: if the impl is not too invasive and there are enough tests we might pull it in
[16:09] <pietern> can you submit a pull request?
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[16:10] <idaunis> the imp its simply few lines in the redis.c, I will submit a pull
[16:10] <Fuhr> with the fear of spamming, I am just going to repost my question :) - If I have to sets of nodes, websites and tags(keywords such as music, cooking etc), that I have to store - how is this best implemented in Redis? I am storing the data for later use with networkX. Working in Python
[16:11] <pietern> idaunis: it should modify src/sort.c, no?
[16:11] <pietern> Fuhr: you say you have sets, why not store the data in sets?
[16:11] <pietern> I don't know what networkX is
[16:11] <idaunis> there are many scenariors where the only solution is a multiple BY
[16:12] <Fuhr> Oh, networkX is a library for creating graphs in Python
[16:12] <Fuhr> well, I might just be very tired. Let me explain what I am trying to achieve
[16:14] <Fuhr> I am harvesting X number of tweets from twitter containing shortened links. These links are then expanded and I have a method parsing/scraping each website for meta-tags/keywords.
[16:14] <pietern> idaunis: I know
[16:14] <pietern> idaunis: I assume you modified src/sort.c?
[16:14] <pietern> if you modified redis.c you have patches 2.0, which is quite old by now..
[16:14] <idaunis> Fuhr: I would create also a key for every tag
[16:15] <Fuhr> Currently I/we have two dictionaries. One for the websites and one for sites, as it makes it quite easy to create the bipartite graph between nodes (Websites and keywords are nodes)
[16:15] <idaunis> pietern: yes
[16:15] <Fuhr> but what if a website has many tags? I thought a Key could only hold one value? I apologize if I am asking redis-101 questions
[16:16] <idaunis> pietern: only sort.c and redis.h
[16:16] <Fuhr> I'd just prefer Redis over CouchDB for this rather small project
[16:16] <pietern> idaunis: such a change also needs a bunch of tests to verify it functions as intended
[16:16] <pietern> see tests/unit/sort.c
[16:16] <pietern> tests/unit/sort.tcl I mean
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[16:17] <Fuhr> Hopefully not confusing you guys too much. Appreciating your help
[16:20] <idaunis> Fuhr: yes, a key only one value. but you can use several keys with a commond pattern, for example: tag:linux, tag:osx, tag:windoz so you have the pattern tag:*
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[16:21] <Fuhr> ah, so if websites are keys and tags are values
[16:21] <idaunis> Fuhr: and for example all those keys point to the same page
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[16:22] <Fuhr> if I search for a certain tag e.g. tag:gadgets then all keys with the value would show up e.g. key:Gizmodo.com, key:Engadget.com etc?
[16:22] <idaunis> pietern: ok
[16:22] <Fuhr> right
[16:23] <Fuhr> I think I get it
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[16:23] <Fuhr> Somehow my own idea of a solution was MUCH more complex :)
[16:24] <idaunis> Fuhr: yes and dont be afraid of using many sets and many keys that store the same data in a different way
[16:25] <Fuhr> Oh, wait. I mean. Each tag is a key with a reference to a website, and each website is key with tags as values.
[16:25] <Fuhr> I'll dive deeper into the documentation.
[16:27] <idaunis> Fuhr: normally I would have a set containing page Ids or links and also multiple keys with a pattern that store the same id
[16:28] <Fuhr> what advantage does that give you, if you don't mind me asking?
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[16:35] <idaunis> pietern: what should I do with the TCL?
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[16:35] <pietern> idaunis: add tests for the feature you want pulled
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[16:37] <idaunis> pietern: oh okay
[16:37] <pietern> idaunis: anything that gets added needs tests
[16:37] <pietern> there's no way to verify it keeps working otherwise
[16:37] <idaunis> pietern: make sense
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[17:03] <Fuhr> Have a good night everyone
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