#redis on irc.freenode.net 2011-11-27 (txt)

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[03:46] <npmapn> Hello.
[03:46] <ron> o/
[03:47] <npmapn> Is it possible to perform tag operations such as has_a && has_b && ! has_c with redis?
[03:47] <ron> maybe.
[03:50] <npmapn> Ok, is it possible to do it another way than with SINTERSTORE / SDIFFSTORE / SUNIONSTORE?
[03:52] Nuck -> NuckOff
[03:57] <ron> npmapn: your question is just too vague :)
[03:58] <npmapn> ron: Let's say you want to associate items to tags: http://redis.io/commands/sdiff
[03:58] <ron> npmapn: I'm in a meeting, so I may be slow to reply.
[03:58] <npmapn> the key is the tag, the set is the set of items to which one associates the tag
[04:00] <npmapn> sdiff / sinter / sunion seem to be what I need, but I have to be able to do things like: show items with tag1, tag 2 and without tag3
[04:01] <ron> npmapn: okay, so that's one union and one difference.
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[04:05] <npmapn> So, in order to do this, the *store versions of the commands are required or is there some other way?
[04:07] <ron> I think the store version would be required.
[04:07] <npmapn> Thank you for your time.
[04:07] <ron> with pleasure.
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[04:08] <ron> you can use multi/exec for the whole procedure - union and store, difference, and removing the temp set.
[04:11] <npmapn> I didn't know about multi/exec. I will make sure to read the entire documentation now. This helped me figure out that redis is really what I need for this task.
[04:12] <ron> redis is awesome :)
[04:12] <ron> imho, at least :)
[04:12] <npmapn> I just started studying it, but it looks really awesome, yeah.
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[11:36] <zul_> hi all
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[11:38] <zul_> could you help me in undestainding what kind of redis data structure I have to use in a geolocalization? I receive (lat, long) from a mobile and I have to find some places near that coords
[11:38] <zul_> sorry but I'm a newbie
[11:39] <zul_> is there anybody?
[11:39] <rittyan> I'm here but I don't know
[11:39] <rittyan> it's too sunday night for me to think right now
[11:39] <zul_> where are you from
[11:39] <zul_> :)
[11:40] <mjr_> You might try modeling an r-tree in redis. Might be a lot of work though.
[11:41] <mjr_> I think newer couchdbs have spatial indexing now, which works really well if couchdb is fast enough for your workload.
[11:41] <mjr_> CouchDB is really quite awfully slow though, compared to Redis.
[11:42] <zul_> I have thinked that: I use a set for the latitude, and another set for longitude and as keys of the set the place such as "a great pub" and after try to do an intersaction
[11:43] <zul_> but I don't know if this is a stupid way.. I never used redis and just today I red about redis data structures
[11:46] <mjr_> Yeah, you might be able to build something out of sorted sets, which can do range queries
[11:48] <zul_> ok (I'm not so stupid then :) )
[11:51] <zul_> but supponing I'm in a place withe a my mobile, now I want to find the pubs near me. I could I do it? Ok with the sorted sets I can find places near a position, And implement a kind of query like: "all pubs near me"?
[11:51] <zul_> Sorry for my bad english...
[11:51] <zul_> How could I do?
[11:51] <wmoss> zul_: if I understand what you're saying, you want to do locality queries
[11:51] <wmoss> but, Redis only supports single key and value
[11:52] <zul_> exaclty
[11:52] <wmoss> not two dimensions
[11:52] <wmoss> there's ways to get around it
[11:52] <wmoss> something like Hilbert curves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_curve)
[11:52] <zul_> could you explain me it?
[11:52] <wmoss> might help
[11:52] <wmoss> but the basic idea is to map x and y using some function to a single value
[11:52] <wmoss> and store keys using the single value
[11:53] <wmoss> and the idea is that the mapping function is such that things close to the resulting value are also close in x,y
[11:53] <zul_> uh I'm starting to undestaind
[11:54] <zul_> "but the basic idea is to map x and y using some function to a single value" means z = f(x, y)? and after store z in a set or something like that?
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[12:03] <zul_> wmoss are you there?
[12:06] <wmoss> zul_: sorry, I'm in and out
[12:07] <wmoss> anyway
[12:07] <wmoss> yes z = f(x, y)
[12:07] <wmoss> and then store x
[12:07] <wmoss> err, store z
[12:07] <wmoss> and in redis, you could use a sorted set
[12:07] <wmoss> and do a range query on that
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[12:08] <zul_> ok wmoss thanks a lot really
[12:08] <wmoss> zul_: no problem
[12:08] <wmoss> happy to help
[12:08] <zul_> I'm trying to implement a mobile service
[12:09] <wmoss> I should say I've never done this, so I can't speak to it from personal experience
[12:09] <zul_> find offers near you in the stores
[12:09] <wmoss> but I've heard it works well
[12:09] <zul_> ah ok
[12:09] <zul_> where're you from
[12:10] <wmoss> I live in San Francisco
[12:10] <zul_> I'm sicilian (italy)
[12:10] <wmoss> that's where antrirez is, no?
[12:11] <zul_> antirez lives 100 mq than my home
[12:11] <zul_> meters
[12:11] <zul_> but now I'm near milan
[12:11] <zul_> and I don't want to call him at the phone
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[12:14] <zul_> just a question.. is it existis the command: ZINTERBYSCORE?
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[14:41] <robertj> hey all, is fictorial's github the go-to place for nodejs? looks like its stale...
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[16:55] <mjr_> robertj: I'm maintaining node_redis these days, which most people use
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[18:15] <NemesisD> hey
[18:18] <NemesisD> ive got sort of an interesting usage pattern i'm trying to figure out. i will run some background task which will essentially generate a large number of key/value pairs. i need to insert all of these at the same time (probably an MSET) and then I need to, afterwards, delete all of the previously exsting keys not included in this update right afterwards
[18:18] <NemesisD> are there any caveats i should know about?
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[18:29] <NemesisD> is it possible to overwrite an existing numbered database with another?
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[19:42] <quizme> i heard redis automatically flushes to disk. so, can i skip using an RDBMS ?
[19:44] <quizme> i read the discussion on the google groups but that was back in 2010
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[21:05] <NemesisD> quizme: they solve different problems, and theres some discussion on persistence on the redis docs last i checked
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[21:16] <quizme> nemesisD ok thanks.
[21:16] <quizme> nemesisd: by "redis cos" are you talking about redis.io ?
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[21:41] <quizme> good nigh
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