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[03:02] <roidrage> citris: you don't, you keep some sort of index (using a list, a set, or any other data structure that fits your use case) and do a secondary lookup by way of that index
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[05:05] <horte> Hey guys, I am about to implement redis but I am having a hard time deciding whether to use a hash or not. Is there any downsides of using a native redis hash? What is going on backend? Is it slower than just instantly fetch a value based on my own key (e.g. mykey_1) see http://pastebin.com/iA9bCm1q
[05:07] <soveran> horte: solution B is recommended
[05:07] <horte> Ok thx. Is there any particular reason?
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[05:08] <soveran> horte: memory savings, mostly
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[05:08] <horte> ok
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[05:46] <progre55> anyone using the jedis client? how to implement a mapreduce functionality in jedis?
[05:50] <progre55> oh nvm, found this rmq api https://github.com/xetorthio/rmq
[05:52] <xetorthio> progre55, you'll have to implement map reduce on your own. jedis is just a client to use redis in java
[05:53] <progre55> xetorthio: well, what I really wanted was a message queue, and I can use your rmq for that =)
[05:53] <progre55> I needed a pub/sub but didnt want to lose and messages
[05:57] <xetorthio> progre55, ok, so you can use rmq. I've been using it in production for a long time now. more than 6 months. and it is working fine. it is dead simple though, nothing fancy
[05:57] <progre55> xetorthio: yep, but the only thing is missing.. does it have a maven repo? :)
[05:57] <progre55> I'd really appreciate it if there was a maven repository
[05:59] <xetorthio> progre55, currently it doesn't. sorry about that. hopefully soon it will
[06:00] <progre55> xetorthio: well, then I'll have it in my local repo, but will keep checking the project page in case there is a repo in the future :) thank man
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[06:01] <xetorthio> progre55, sure! no problem. if you have any questions you'll find me here :)
[06:02] <progre55> I'll sure consider that :) appreciate
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[06:49] <progre55> xetorthio: a question on jmq.. are Producer and Consumer thread-safe?
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[06:49] <xetorthio> progre55, no. you should have one per thread
[06:49] <progre55> okay, thanks
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[06:50] <progre55> xetorthio: so is it okay to open several producers, but with the same topic?
[06:51] <xetorthio> progre55, yes. although there is a possible bottleneck there if you think you'll have lots of producers with lots of messages/second
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[06:54] <progre55> xetorthio: now I have one JedisPool throughout the whole project, and when I need to publish, I just create a producer with a jedis from the pool, then it will get gc'ed. Is that the right way to do it?
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[06:55] <xetorthio> progre55, yes. probably a next version of rmq could take of that directly internally to make api simpler
[06:57] <progre55> thanks
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[09:44] <mxp> hey everyone
[09:44] <mxp> what happens if i have more data than total memory?
[09:44] <mxp> and no swap?
[09:44] <mxp> will i have data loss?
[09:46] <mxp> ???
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[10:06] <Kosma> mxp: uncle OOM Killer will come and eat you for dinner
[10:07] <Kosma> mxp: if you plan using all your RAM, set maxmemory in your config file
[10:07] <Kosma> and remember to leave enough headroom for OS + disk page cache + Redis I/O buffers
[10:08] <Kosma> just recently I had a case of Redis getting killed due to OOM while trying to do SMEMBERS on a set with >4 million members
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[11:18] <yukonbob> hello, #redis
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[11:48] <grossjo> for redis master/slave sync, after the initial syncing, how does the master slave maintain the syncronization? does teh slave have to issue commands for future updates?
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[12:13] <jzawodn> grossjo: the master ships every new write command to the slave(s)
[12:13] <grossjo> thanks, thats great
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[15:05] <markbao> so: what are the future plans for redis to use out-of-memory store? I remember I heard something that Redis was only going to focus on in-memory store with disk persistence
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[15:34] <luckyruby> does redis-rb support redis2.4, specifically being able to add multiple members in one call using sadd?
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[16:06] <ferric> luckyruby: probably not since 2.4 was release on 10/14 and the gem hasn't been udpated since 8/22
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[16:07] <ferric> oh actually, maybe not
[16:07] <ferric> https://github.com/ezmobius/redis-rb/pull/137
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[16:22] <markbao> sup ferric
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[18:56] <dkog> How can I SET mykey = max(current value, new value) ?
[18:57] <dkog> I need to to WATCH, MULTI, EXEC?
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[19:28] <airhorns> if i'm doing a redis.hmset from within an EVAL'd script, do I pass it a lua table or successive key, value arguments?
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[20:22] <citris> what are the issues that could evolve from using redis as your main data store for a web application.
[20:22] <citris> such as a twitter clone, using redis to store all data including users?
[20:23] <citris> compared to a relational database like mysql
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[22:45] <slact> oh hello there
[22:46] <slact> i wonder if my socket read timeout EAGAIN errors while talking to redis are caused by redis taking its time while doing a rdb dump...
[22:48] <slact> The machine has plenty of cores, redis is at v. 2.4.2, and i'm getting errors though the ruby redis-rb client. (and it doesn't seem to be a shared socket or threading, or idle connection timeout issue)
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[23:12] <slact> oh how sleepy it is here
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