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[04:14:50] yes use KEYS [04:17:24] do not use on production :) [04:18:32] ugh, well. uff... :) [04:20:34] I check whether it is possible to write a fuse-based filesystemd based on redis, we just need a flat directory with files in there, for storing image files to be accessible by native command line tools (e.g. /usr/bin/convert) but be present on all servers, e.g. like NFS, but NFS is too unreliable, and I'd like to check, whether it might be better to use redis as backend storage and put a FUSE layer atop of it. [04:20:48] ugh [04:20:51] hehe [04:21:01] FUSE itself is broken as a concept [04:21:13] Redis-backed FUSE is even more fucked [04:21:25] well, but fuse is the best way to implement a fs in userspace, so tell me something better ;) [04:21:34] You should not implement a FS in userspace, full stop. [04:21:59] maybe take a look at glusterfs? [04:22:35] ptrb: i'm not here for full stops. I actually liked that idea, since I love redis, and always wanted to try out fuse, too. [04:22:45] brtsz: Is that same as RedHat's GFS? [04:22:50] Action: trapni is checking clusterfs [04:23:03] brtsz: sounds like realted to btrfs, is it? [04:23:41] thehodge (~thehodge@host-92-23-0-17.as13285.net) joined #redis. [04:23:45] clusterfs supports fuse, too. so what's all so bad about fuse, ptrb? [04:23:49] trapni: dunno about RedHat's GFS, but as they bought glusterfs it is likely [04:24:07] trapni: If you want key-value access to file data, Redis may make sense as an access or caching layer. But it's not persistent in the same way as any FS ought to be. [04:24:31] trapni: It's conceptually broken. Filesystems necessarily require usage contracts & guarantees that cannot be met by userspace-level code. [04:25:16] ie. Tools built on top of filesystems rely on those contracts, both explicitly and implicitly. [04:25:18] by *any* userspace-level code? so you mean kernel-space is the only ever way to go for an fs? I'd believe that for most cases, but not for all [04:25:32] ptrb: it sill is possible to implement viable fs that way. vide gfs (google fs) [04:25:47] trapni: In the general case, yes. If you have some tightly controlled environment/context, maybe there is some way around. [04:26:09] brtsz: googlefs afaik is not a true filesystem [04:26:29] but a data layer underneath custom google software [04:26:30] unless you assign a ttl to your value, the value is persistent in redis, too, isn't it? [04:26:44] trapni: persistent in memory, yes. [04:26:50] memory is volatile by definition :) [04:26:51] it's special purpose fs, but sitll done in userspace. just like glusterfs [04:27:10] ptrb: I know that memory is volatile, but I thought that redis writes also to disk? [04:27:35] trapni: It can be configured to dump memory to disk, but (some level of IMO here) that is not contractual persistence. ie. Redis is not a database. 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[08:44:56] gregp76 (~gregpendl@212.25.110.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:44:56] Nick change: gregp76_ -> gregp76 [08:45:43] rittyan (~rittyan@dhcp-217-112-wifi.yandex.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:45:56] lvh (~lvh@python/psf/lvh) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:51:41] io_syl (~io_syl@96.24.68.1) joined #redis. [08:54:19] wam (~wam@unaffiliated/wam) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [08:56:15] So I've got a bunch of hashes (hash keys), and I want to organize them into sets based on some fields, business logic stuff. What kind of encoding should I consider, if I want to minimize the number of HGETs and/or SMEMBERs I need to run? [08:57:06] Alternatively: there's no way to query for hash keys who contain a field F with value V, is there? [09:01:10] pharkmillups (~markphill@70-36-146-232.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined #redis. [09:03:48] jtsnow (~jtsnow@74-95-52-198-Utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #redis. 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[10:20:42] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) joined #redis. [10:21:10] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:23:50] lstrojny (~lstrojny@p5099f5c8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: lstrojny [10:24:38] Nick change: NuckOff -> Nuck [10:24:43] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) joined #redis. [10:26:01] drudru (42369f62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.54.159.98) joined #redis. [10:26:12] appamatto (~appamatto@li210-235.members.linode.com) left irc: Changing host [10:26:12] appamatto (~appamatto@copyfree/advocate/appamatto) joined #redis. [10:26:33] hi - i've emailed this question, but have not heard a response. I would be happy to update the docs with this answer [10:26:45] What are the size limits for keys and values on redis? [10:29:05] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:30:04] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) joined #redis. 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[11:02:08] hi - any info on size limits in redis in terms of bytes? [11:08:29] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:09:15] strmpnk_ (~strmpnk@207.239.107.3) joined #redis. [11:09:31] p1d (~p1d@dslb-088-067-029-065.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #redis. [11:10:13] how long is the usual wait, not complaining, just curious if i should just take it to the list [11:15:08] ... moving to the list [11:15:26] drudru (42369f62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.54.159.98) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:15:31] drbobbeaty (~drbobbeat@38.98.137.29) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:15:39] drbobbeaty (~drbobbeat@38.98.137.29) joined #redis. [11:19:45] dotan (~jondot@bzq-82-80-183-148.red.bezeqint.net) joined #redis. [11:20:34] hi all. i'm trying to write a generic layer on top of k/v stores supporting _only_ get & set. since redis is the first candidate for concrete implementation, i wonder if there is a way to implement a 'set' over strict key/value ? [11:20:36] deepthawtz (~deepthawt@209.119.38.226) joined #redis. [11:21:16] zastaph (zastaph@unaffiliated/zastaph) joined #redis. [11:22:24] the naive way would be to implement myobj:set key and a serialized list as a value, however, race conditions arise. [11:24:56] gnrfan (~gnrfan@190.8.79.154) joined #redis. [11:25:26] is there someway to do multi master replication with redis? [11:25:38] i need every node to have all the data [11:42:54] Swimming_Bird (~textual@64.70.114.89) joined #redis. [11:42:57] io_syl (~io_syl@96.24.68.1) left irc: Changing host [11:42:57] io_syl (~io_syl@unaffiliated/steph021) joined #redis. 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